NY AA dismissed ( Not Local Los Angeles AA) as defendant in Brada wrongful death lawsuit

January 13, 2016 6:48 p.m.
Parents of a Saugus woman murdered in 2011 sued Alcoholics Anonymous when they learned she met her killer through AA.Hector and Jaroslava Mendez of Sylmar said they were seeking justice for their murdered daughter, Karla Brada, when they filed a wrongful death lawsuit. But on Tuesday they learned the list of defendants named in the lawsuit no longer includes the organization they believe could have prevented her death.Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Rita J. Miller dismissed the Mendez lawsuit Tuesday against the General Service Board of Alcoholics Anonymous Inc. and Alcoholics Anonymous World Services, Inc. on Tuesday.A San Fernando Superior Court jury found Eric Earle guilty in 2014 of murdering Brada by willfully and deliberately smothering her to death between the night of Aug. 31, 2011, and the morning of Sept. 1, 2011, inside the couple’s Saugus condominium. He was sentenced in 2014 to 26 years in prison.For Brada’s parents, AA was to blame for failing to prevent the murder because Brada met Earle at AA meetings.And, while their lawsuit continues against other defendants named — Earle himself and Brada’s AA sponsors — the two most prominent defendants representing AA headquarters were officially dismissed from the case.

The news was bittersweet for the lawyer who has struggled to hold AA accountable for the circumstances he believed led to Brada’s death.

“We’re disappointed that they let the New York AA out of the suit,” Valencia attorney John W. Noland said Wednesday.

“California law isn’t supportive of civil rights,” he said. “If this case had been heard in a different state, They (AA) might not have been released.”

Read full story here http://www.signalscv.com/m/section/36/article/147289/

So California is not supportive of Civil RIghts? WOW—- we need media and lawyers, activists and people who care about Civil Rights in California.

We know AA in NY knew that Violent offenders have been not only court ordered by judges  and the plea deals , but AA in NY has Literature teaching members how to go into prisons and bring them out and into meetings for 50 + years. Long before Drug Court even began.

They are still suing the Sponsors and Eric ….

Blog away !

FYI- Its only NY AA that was dismissed. Not Local AA in LA.

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14 thoughts on “NY AA dismissed ( Not Local Los Angeles AA) as defendant in Brada wrongful death lawsuit

  1. What can I say? I am very disappointed by this. It seems as if the court is willfully looking the other way and therefore allowing AA to keep in place a situation where vulnerable newcomers sit side by side by felons and sex offenders who are cloaked by the anonymity of the “Program”. This to me is beyond insane – just think of applying for any job these days and how your background is going to be checked and how your credit rating is going to be checked. This is standard operational procedure in the workplace to prevent litigation and to hopefully prevents workplace violence, thefts, etc. I maintain that if AA is accepting newcomers from treatment programs into it’s meetings, AA should be held to the some standard of protecting it’s members from felons and sex offenders. Once again, I am very disappointed that AA WS is getting off the hook and the court is looking the other way. Who knows how many victims off AA members might have been spared victimization in the future had the court not let AAWS off the hook. Uggggh, I’m just totally disgusted by this!!!!!

    • rob- it should make us all really mad. I’m ready to make poster of Karla and protest out side some big meetings.

      Also protest outside the Court house for DUI’s and educate the newbys who will be sent to AA.

  2. They had to let them go because AA is in bed with their legal system. Sue the people who provide you free probation and parole officers?

    ‘I think Not’.

    Librarian

    • Librarian- you are right-

      Also Sue the entire Board of Alcoholics Anonymous. They will all begin to step down. and be afraid to be on the board. The Board knows whats going on and they voted to do nothing….in 2009.

      Its not over till the fat lady sings…..I have hope.

      We will talk to judges- and protest.

    • I’ve always felt it was the wrong line of attack to go after the court systems, because the judges are the ones sending people to the program. If you hold the AA board accountable, then sponsors will be accountable, judges will be accountable, etc. I’ve always thought the right line of attack is to go to the churches, because if you analyze AA doctrine it is in direct contradiction with Christianity. It is occultic, and it encourages people to worship any old God of their choosing, which violates the First Commandment, which is there shall be only one God. If the program had no places to meet, it would wither on the vine.

  3. I am disgusted & agree with “”Librarian”” above completely!
    I AM AN IRISH 48 YEAR OLD FEMALE. I AM SOBER FOR 26
    CONSECUTIVE YEARS AS I WRITE. THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER HERE IS THAT UNDOUBTEDLY – AT THE POINT OF ITS ORIGIN, AKRON, OHIO IN 1935 – BILL & BOB LEFT FAR TOO MUCH TO CHANCE IN THE WRITING OF THE “BIG BOOK & SUBSEQUENT OTHER BOOKS” OF ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS .

    I ALSO FEEL THAT THE “NO BOSSES” CONCEPT WHILE MOST LIKELY “PURE IN ITS ORIGINAL INTENTION” – EVOLVED TO BE A MOST SICKENING “LOOPHOLE” UPON WHICH “RESPONSIBILITY & ACCOUNTABILITY” COULD BE AVOIDED 110% BY AA.

    I WOULD ASK PEOPLE TO PONDER THIS QUESTION;
    “IF KARLA MENDEZ WAS YOUR DAUGHTER OR GRAND DAUGHTER – WOULD YOU FEEL HAPPY ABOUT THIS COURT DECISION”??
    THE “STRONG RECOMMENDATION” OF AA TO ITS MEMBERS IS NOT TO GET INVOLVED IN A RELATIONSHIP (OR MAKE ANY SERIOUS DECISION FOR THAT MATTER) FOR AT LEAST TWO WHOLE YEARS… THERE IS A VERY VALID REASON FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION; WE ARE QUITE SIMPLY “NOT RIGHT IN THE HEAD” BY THE TIME WE REACH THE DOORS
    OF AA, REGARDLESS OF OUR ACTUAL AGE. I MYSELF WAS BLESSED ON THESE 2 COUNTS;
    1; IT WAS MY 10 YEARS OLDER BROTHER WHO BROUGHT ME TO MEETINGS FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS (AND NEVER, EVER DID HE HOLD BACK ON WARNING ME ABOUT “PREDATORS” ATTENDING AA MEETINGS).
    2; ALTHOUGH I WAS YOUNG WHEN I FOUND AA, I WAS ALSO HIGHLY INTELLIGENT & SUPER VIGILANT.
    HOWEVER, I HAVE WITNESSED COUNTLESS YOUNG WOMEN AND INDEED MEN, WHO WERE TOTALLY VULNERABLE, SCREWED UP AND THEN ABUSED YET AGAIN AT THE HANDS OF SO CALLED “SOBER, LONG-TERM MEMBERS OF AA” – FACT.
    WHEN I ARRIVED AT AA, THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE WITH WHOM I WOULD NOT CONVERSE / DRINK TEA WITH, AND 26 YEARS LATER – SAME APPLIES.
    AA IS A HAVEN TO QUESTIONABLE PEOPLE FOR WHOM “ALCOHOLISM” IS A SECONDARY PROBLEM, BUT NOT THEIR PRIMARY ONE – FACT.

    IF I HAD A DAUGHTER, AA IS NOT SOMEWHERE I WOULD
    CONSIDER SENDING HER… EVER, EVER.

    AND YES, FOR “HER OWN” PERSONAL SAFETY.

  4. Bernadette- Thanks for posting your two cents— I would not bring an enemy to AA either. I brought a family member a few years before I left and I finally saw it for the disgusting pig hole it is.

    The rose colored glasses were ripped off my face and I wondered what I ever saw good about AA years ago.

  5. A woman wrote this on FACEBOOK and with her permission I am placing it here.

    Just as an FYI, the family has not used any of the $ for themselves, nor did they plan to. They are fighting to make AA accountable for blatant violations of their own laws. They have never denied that AA definitely helps people in many cases, but that does not excuse AA or any other organization like them, from following the law or ensuring the safety of their members as much as possible. Also, courts routinely sentence violent offenders to AA, even though they may not even be alcoholics. I don’t know about you, but I don’t think that anyone should be put in a situation that requires them to be involved with individuals that are proven to be violent & dangerous. I also feel that courts should not send violent men into a program that gives them easy access to women that are likely at the most vulnerable point in their lives. It’s like releasing a wolf into a herd of sheep. Very irresponsible. Worse, the attendees aren’t even told that there are violent criminals in the program with them. Imagine if convicted pedophiles were court-ordered to work at daycares/schools. You drop your child off unaware that his/her teacher is a pedophile. You find out at some point that this teacher has molested your child. Would you not be angry at the school for knowingly allowing this person access to your child? Of course you would! Likely, you would sue the teacher individually, as well as the school. This is what the Brada family did. They also sued Karla’s killer, Eric Earle, who the police had not even charged. Had the family not taken action, that guy would still be walking the streets free to do this again. He had a long history of violence & the system failed them the first time. Had the Bradas not fought to finally have the facts heard before the court, this scumbag would still be free to do it again. They didn’t sue Eric Earle because he dated their daughter. They sued because he killed their daughter. They didn’t sue AA because they “met there.” They sued because AA violated laws/ethics & knowingly provided criminals free access to an extremely vulnerable population.

  6. While I know what motivated the Mendezes to sue, I wonder who told them there was any hope of winning. They tried three times to find grounds and now they are barred from trying again.

  7. I agree with Librarian, the court system is in bed with AA, which gives me one more reason to be mad at our government. I also agree with Some Guy, AA is cultic and has no place in the church. That was the major reason I left the program. When I was in rehab our group attended an AA meeting once a week at a Lutheran church. The more I learned about AA and it’s founders and history as well as what I read in the Big Book, the more I realized as a Christian how wrong this program was for me. I would encourage any pastor who allows AA in it’s building to take a much closer look at this program. You can start by visiting the Stepping Stones Website, museum and former home of Mr. Bill Wilson, himself. Google information about his spook room you can visit at the museum even today. Find out what he did in his spook room and I think you will find out exactly what kind of a man made up this deceitful program.

  8. So according to what everyone is saying, I should sue the places/organizations/companies that I met all of my rapists and abusers through/at?? Um no. Or what about the couple that got murdered when they answered a craigslist ad for a car? Craigslist wasn’t sued btw. Alcoholics Anonymous doesn’t screen its members and isn’t responsible for this horrible tradgedy. It’s been a very well known fact that not everyone there is well and I’m talking about AA, NA, and every other 12 step program. It’s a completely different thing than if one were to go to a therapy group where they have professionals due to various screening. However, horrible things have happened from ppl mtg at therapy groups as well. The world is full of monsters. There’s a fine line in all of this and I personally believe that it’s been crossed in such a negative way. My heart breaks for all of those involved in this tragedy. I’m also extremely sad that AA is being dragged through the mud. It shouldn’t be held accountable or responsible for something that it just can’t possibly be held for. It shouldn’t change either bc that’s not what AA is or should be. I’m not going to get into that here. Ppl are always looking to blame the wrong thing(s) and in today’s world, everyone is sue happy.

    • Here is craiglists safety policy easily found on the website being accountable for it’s users

      .https://www.craigslist.org/about/safety

      Given that it had concerns raised about the risk of harm to users it was reflexive in recognizing the issues in many ways and is still a reliable safe online service thanks to it’s safety policy and procedures to warn it’s users of potential risks.

      craigslist is also not a form of disease recovery. I don’t recall anyone entering into Craigslist alcohol recovery meetings run by unqualified 12 steps of craigslist evangelists, discovered by a guy called craig while on drugs in a new york sham hospital during the 1930’s. Or am I mistaken. So there really is there a comparison. But you have a point and as the case has been pointed out numerous times by our trolls we can now fully understand that there is no accountability by AA for it’s members. It is, what it was, already. Shame really and missed a great opportunity to be a leader in all that is right and moral and spiritual and joyous and free. Oh well I blame the management that isn’t there but really it is.

      In therapy groups there are clear lines of accountability and often the organisation will have a very clear policy in place and how it will or won’t help dependent and also insurance too. Violent offenders seeking treatment would not be mixing with Joe Bloggs off the street a simple risk matrix would clearly indicate this is not appropriate, but AA welcomes all with open arms just make sure you stop drinking first. however this is open to abuse by suey people so this in itself is not ideal as you quite rightly point out.

      This is important as there are inherent risks during therapeutic treatment not only for attendees but also the qualified professional conducting the group. Nonetheless the differences between the two are diametrically opposed. AA believes it is not anything ever to anyone other than someone who says they are what they are to stop drinking and that fundamentally is where it stops.

      Then there is evidence based health care which places it’s concerns with the welfare of it’s service users. It is not perfect but boy does it know how to learn a lesson and have the humility and ethics and moral duty to acknowledge it and change for the very people it attempts to protect.

      On a final note below is AA safety information for it’s members.

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