WHY has the ACLU not gotten into the Fight against court ordered Alcoholics Anonymous Coercion.

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WHY? It is clearly a violation of our 1 st amendment rights, our civil rights.

So why not. I called the main NY Office in 2011 when my brother in law, who was a long time AA member hung himself in his bathroom in Yonkers.

I called again and then again and then again. I even went to a big fundraiser and paid way too much to sit and eat a $50.oo dinner in hopes I could Network with the ACLU Lawyers.

I did meet a nice USC student who was very interested in talking to me and about AA , Insurance and real treatment. We both dropped the ball.

But seriously, why don’t we all pick up the phone and call our local chapters, tell them about me and my film, or tell them about how every day in every court in every city American citizen are being forced to got to a religous AA meeting. and not just 1 ….sometimes , 50 of them, sometimes , 5 years 3 times a week of them . Professionals forced to go there. Tell them your story if you were coerced at any time. Write your coercion stories down and send them to me and I can compile them for perhaps a class action lawsuit against who….our federal courts??? Not sure but I think compiling the stories so that when its time we have them all written up .

Then come back here and lets report on what happened with those calls. Keeping records and data.

Also , if you could forward and post here any professionals conference that I may attend as be a speaker at and show my film. That is what I will also be doing. Not just showing this film in theaters.

Thank you. contact me through the website here or at makeaasafer@gmail.com

Blessings to you all!

Barry A. Hazle Jr., Atheist, Wins Nearly $2 Million In Settlement Over AA Based Rehab Program

truth justiceThis story broke on The Courthouse News Service. Here is the original story. His lawyer is given credit which he should get a medal as far as I am concerned. John Heller in San Francisco. We applaud you!!!



A California atheist has won a settlement of nearly $2 million after being sent to jail on a parole violation for objections he made about participating in a faith-based rehab program.

Barry A. Hazle Jr., 46, served time for a conviction of methamphetamine possession in 2007. As a condition of his parole, he was enrolled in a drug treatment program where participants were required to acknowledge a “higher power,” according to the Sacramento Bee.

Hazle complained and asked for a different treatment program, but was told the only option in his area was the faith-based, Westcare 12-step program, according to the Record Searchlight.

Hazle was sent back to jail for more than three months for allegedly being “disruptive, though in a congenial way, to the staff as well as other students” and being “sort of passive-aggressive,” the paper reported.

“I’m thrilled to finally have this case settled,” Hazle told the Searchlight. “It sends a clear message to people in a position of authority, like my parole agent, for example, that they not mandate religious programming for their parolees, and for anyone else, for that matter.”

Hazle sued in 2008 and won, but a jury refused to award him any damages. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals then threw out the decision. In a unanimous ruling, the three-judge panel said Hazle was entitled to compensation.

The jury’s verdict, which awarded Hazle no compensatory damages at all for his loss of liberty, cannot be upheld,” Judge Stephen Reinhardt wrote in the court’s opinion. “The jury simply was not entitled to refuse to award any damages for Hazle’s undisputable — and undisputed — loss of liberty, and its verdict to the contrary must be rejected.”

The state of California will pay Hazle $1 million, while Westcare will pay $925,000under terms of the settlement, according to KRCR-TV.

Hazle told the Sacramento Bee he plans to become active in local drug rehabilitation efforts.

The California Department of Corrections has since issued new rules stating that parole officers may not require parolees to attend faith-based programs.



Being Court Ordered to GO to Alcoholics Anonymous Meetings for a DUI. How wrong is that!

Attorneys Shaking Hands On Courthouse Steps

AA has been deemed “highly religious” in 50% of all U.S states.

Under the First Amendment freedom of religion clause, this means courts in those states cannot sentence convicted DUI offenders to attend AAs “Highly religious” meetings.

But 25 state courts are doing it anyway, not only violating the Constituion, but also letting sexual predators into the 12 step programs right through the courthouse doors….

The federal government can end this illegal practice. But it’s up to us us to report it.

Fight back. Know your rights. Tell your Lawyer first thing you know you have secular options.

They are



Moderation Management

Women for Sobriety ( located in San Diego and where else)?

Don’t let them do it. Tell your Lawyer right away that you understand what AA is a what AA is not. AA is a lay person support group from the 1930’s that has never been updated.

AA is not a government agency

There is no one in charge at an AA meeting.

Have the lawyer talk to the judge and mention that  AA is a religious support organization with over 497 mentions of GOD , higher power, him and father  of light mentioned in the first 164 pages of the Big Book.

Tell them that you know that courts all over the country are ordering violent and sex offenders to the same place they are telling you to go. And that women have been murdered. Cite the Karla Brada Case.

Tell them you are entitled to a secular option.

IS AA religious or is it spiritual? Is it white or is it SNOWFLAKE?


I just did a show about this. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/saferecovery/2014/03/05/is-aa-religious-or-spiritual-is-it-white-or-snowflake In preparation for my film I had all the references to GOD, HP , higher power crapola pulled out. We found there were some almost 600 references to God in the first 164 pages.

I am making a film about AA and 12 step coercion and if you would like to donate to the film please consider the Tax deductable donation. Many have been forced to AA or NA  against your first amendment rights. Please click on the links below.


Or you can donate to the IDA and use paypal as well…http://www.documentary.org/community/sponsorship/donate?film_id=4112

There are also a lot of MUSTS! For a take it or leave it program there are many many musts.

I am convinced AA is a suedo,  religious,  and very cult like for sure. If you leave they ostracize you. If you question its tenets, they ostracize you. If you try to make it safe…they tell you its an outside issue. But we can think for ourselves and use our minds and not be brainwashed.

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I think they are crazy! Please listen to the show and I will do a few more so we can laugh and not cry our way through this process. Some times its hard. 🙁

There are 7 free non religious options. Smart Recovery, SOS, Moderation.org , LIfeRING, Hams Harm Reduction, The Sinclair Method and Recover! The PERFECT PROGRAM> by Stanton Peele and Ilse Thompson.