Tonic VICE tells our story- Sexual Assault Alcoholics Anonymous

Its taken a very long time to get heard. But I feel today with this article on VICE – The story is now out. Please share everywhere.

Written by Elizabeth Brown

posted November 11, 2017

Women are encouraged to “look for their part” in what’s happened to them.

still believe in the foundation of AA because it did save my life and help me get sober almost ten years ago,” says Adrian Wilson. She tells me she had been in the program for six years when she met a man at an Alcoholics Anonymous barbecue hosted by her female sponsor. The man asked for her card, saying he could help promote her clothing business. Wilson says she checked with her sponsor as to whether the man was a “safe” person and was told “yes—he’s an elder with 30 years sober.” A few weeks later, Wilson alleges that she went on a bike ride with him and then stopped by his house for waffles where he proceeded to sexually assault her “in every way, shape, and form.”

Wilson says she drove to her sponsor’s house, hysterical, immediately after the rape where her sponsor told her not to call the police or go to the hospital because “everyone in AA will hate you.” She suggested that instead, Wilson “get on [her] knees and pray, work the steps, and look for [her] part in what happened.”

Read Full story here…

https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/7x4m8q/sexual-assault-alcoholics-anonymous

AA -Alcoholics Anonymous is worth some $22,000,000 million dollars. Think again about giving money!

 

this is on their tax return…what are they talking about – How does AA provide service – what services do they provide?

How are they NOT connected to the member and the groups when we call them and say we were harmed, raped, sexually harassed. WHY DOES AA SAY THEY HAVE NO PART IN IT ?  But they like the connection to the groups and members to have a nice tax write off  … dont they ?

Where is a hotline to file complaints?

They HAVE NONE. CALL AND COMPLAIN _ Write emails , write to your local newspaper and your local TV outlets if you were sexually harassed in AA in any way. SHOUT IT OUT ! NOW IS THE TIME>

Does AA help still suffering alkies as they pretend to? How do they do it then. How much are the Officers paid in NY ? ALL is here for you to see.

Here is just one link to AA World wide Headquarters. What does AA do with the money the groups send into NYC ?

http://www.eri-nonprofit-salaries.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=NPO.Summary&EIN=237282071&Cobrandid=0

Parents- Children with Addiction – opiates or alcohol -Advise

As a long time ex AA member I HIGHLY recommend you DO NOT send your children to any 12 step rehab or sober living. AA is 95 % fail rate.

  • The FBI is cracking down and investigating Insurance Fraud for SOBER LIVING
  • Ask what credentials those working there have.
  • Treatment does not take place in SOBER Living.
  • Sober Living has NO DOCTOR – its a house that is over priced where your children may be treated like they are in prison
  • In CA and Pennsylvania no background checks happen in those rehabs.
  • Even and IOP Intensive outpatient may just be More AA – Big Book Studies and watching bad AA propaganda Movies like 28 days with Sandra Bullock.
  • Body Brokering and Kickbacks are going on all over the USA with rehab and Sober Living Fraud.
  • Being an AA member does not make one an expert on anything except their own drinking, drugging, failures and success.
  • Criminals can be also sent to your kids soner living.
  • Heroin may be swirling around and in those rehabs and sober livings. Your child is better off coming home to YOU.
  • Please research and Attend Craft for families. Stay away from Al ANON.
  • AA members are not experts and have NO TRAINING! Do not listen to them unless they prove to be trusted. Men who are intersted in your sons may be pedophiles.
  • Your teens should NEVER go to AA or NA meetings without YOU!

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Barry Hazle sued The State of CA, Probation and The Treatment Center he was forced to.

This is an older but VERY Important STORY. Please listen to this podcast of Barry Hazle and John Heller his attorney. AMAZING story. Hazle VS B Crow Foote

  1. He complained to the counselors there.
  2. Then went over his head and complained to the program director
  3. Grieved through his parole officer
  4. asked what did he have to do to have his rights respected
  5. He was told to do a 602- a form for inmate grievances and attach a piece a paper with  all his issues. His 602 was denied. Told he had to go back to prison.
  6. Understanding our 1st Amendment is key
  7. Found all the cases he could find that showed violations of 1 st amendment cases and treatment.
  8. He wrote down everything he could remember from start to finish. He feels it was key to winning the lawsuit. Documenting everything.
  9. The best thing that represents the problems he had with AA, is that they had issued you a Big Book ( WestCare – in Redding )
  10. They told him its spiritual not religious! Barry said “they mean the same damn thing “
  11. West Care get $4,000-$5,000 an inmate .
  12. The Establishment clause protects all people from any religious persuasion.
  13. Is there some type of state action involved? The State was requiring him to go . John Heller , attorney said.
  14. Is he compelled? Yes – the element to participate was present. That’s what the establishment clause protects us from.
  15. HAZELTON is a huge publishing huge arm for pushing AA literature.
  16. They went to trial in Sacramento in 2010. West Care was in the lawsuit. They only contracted with 12 step programs.
  17. They went to the next trial in the higher court. That Barry Was entitled to some sort of settlement.
  18. In discovery -They did hear from WEST CARE that 12 step was not religious.  Not true. But they kept saying this.
  19. Chapter 4 in the Big Book The Agnostics.
  20. West Care is a non profit.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/saferecovery/2014/12/10/barry-hazle-wins-19-million-in-lawsuit-for-being-sent-to-aa-based-rehab-or-jail

AA Member punches pregnant girlfriend in the stomach.

JUST so you know who is also sitting next to you in a meeting. He has been violent before. WHY dont these men do time in prison? WHAT the heck is wrong with our lawyers? Not all lawyers , but this is a game they play .

by David Linton / THE SUN CHRONICLE

ATTLEBORO — A city man has been charged with shoving a sonogram down his pregnant girlfriend’s throat and punching her in the stomach during an argument at his apartment.

Jonathan Gaidelis, 27, of 798 Park St., was ordered held in jail without bail Thursday after a dangerousness hearing in Attleboro District Court.

His lawyer, Nicolas Gordon of Mansfield, pleaded for Judge Steven Thomas to release his client with a GPS monitoring bracelet and other conditions.

“This is a person who vehemently maintains his innocence,” Gordon said.

Gaidelis’ 24-year-old girlfriend, who is 19 weeks pregnant, testified the alleged Sept. 5 incident on was the last in a string of physical abuse she suffered at the hands of Gaidelis.

The woman testified Gaidelis accused her of cheating on him before he ripped up the sonogram and tried to shove it down her throat. He then began assaulting her, she testified.

“He punched me in the stomach,”she said.

The woman then said he threw her on the bed and got on top of her before he eventually allowed her to leave the apartment. The woman managed to text her mother, who called 911.

The woman was treated at Sturdy Memorial Hospital for abdominal pain and was released after being medically cleared, according to her testimony and a police report.

During cross examination, she acknowledged she never reported any previous assaults, including once when he allegedly choked her, and took him back. She said she agreed to reunite with Gaidelis on previous occasions when he told her he was attending Alcoholics Anonymous meetings.

http://www.thesunchronicle.com/news/local_news/attleboro-man-charged-with-punching-pregnant-girlfriend-in-stomach/article_e7cd2e0d-4b53-5c50-89f3-60ba175a7d55.html

Proof AA has a part in a Death or Rape of a Person In Alcoholics Anonymous

OK Monica you are not playing the strongest card against AA,people do get mugged in grocery stores and bars and all those other places they even get hit upon in church,ministers and priests take advantage of there power over children,so the dynamics in that regard have some similarities ,I use to hear that argument from AA people all the time,when I would bring up the Karla Brada case,the AA people”s argument was always, ,that could have happened in a church,yes it could, and that has happened in a church, however here is the argument you need to make,the priest or minister or bar owner or grocery store owner did not go to a judge and say send the offender to my church or my bar or my grocery,AA goes to the judges and says mandate the offender to AA and we will monitor there attendance,it is written in the AA pamphlet on working with the courts that any AA member may go to a judges and tell him to mandate offenders to AA..I have often wondered if the Brada attorny played that card and if not why?

,I have heard you touch on it but the strongest argument is the fact that it is written in the AA doctrine to approach the judges therefor initiating and enabling the offender,therefor AA plays a role in any crime committed against anyone attending AA,if there is one argument that will take AA down I believe that is it,there in lies the liability,it would likely take some sort of class action lawsuit ,maybe some up and coming young attorney to organize it,I have spoken to a few judges,but they wont admitt any wrong doing because the jails are full and they just want to get re elected by showing they are working with AA to curb drug and alcohal abuse.

Monica “- Thank you for pointing this out. I have already seen this but your specific point of view is helpful in Legal terms. Thank you. I have written this rebuttle so many times but it does take simplifying it and tossing it back in the perfect layer of words. Connecting each dot to dot – but as you say. ” from AA to the courts ” not blaming the courts.