EVERY DAY is Precious. Love the One you’re with.

One Day at a Time.Β (a seriously overused slogan from the gutter of Bill WIlson’s basement.)

When I was younger and new in AA I lived one moment at a time. Even back then I hated the sayings “one day at a time“, “Think, Think, Think”,Β ” First Things First“.

I hated their stupid slogans. I quit for life back then without the help of AA. I quit drinking on my own 2 weeks before I went to any AA meeting. I thought chips and 30-60-90 standing up etc even in 1975 was a bunch of nonsense. But, sometimes life throws us a curve. Things happen. Pets die, friends move away, health issues arise, and new friends from the blogs commit suicide as with Ryan.

Good things happen too. We leave AA and find freedom. We develop new hobbies. We realize AA is filled with laughable belief systems from 1930. I know I hammer this fact about the 1930’s but honestly….its really true. Laden with traces of prohibition and the temperance movement from then, we plan to change the worlds views on Addiction and Alcohol over use.One issues at a time. One state at a time.

AA can keeps it’s tentacles in the 1% true alcoholic. I have no interest in this demographic. I want to help young people to use moderation or sane abstinence based programs THEY CHOOSE and more practical non religious paths to healthy living around alcohol and drugs.

We want to change the laws.

We want to educate everywhere that AA doesn’t work for most and that it is dangerous.

I am no longer alone in my journey. I have met many of you on www.Stinkin-thinkin.com , OP and RFR as well as my other blog www.stop13stepinaa.wordpress.com.

We want the world to know there are other options like;

Smart Recovery, SOS- Secular Organizations for Sobriety, Ken Anderson’s Hams Harm Reduction, www.drinklinkmoderation.com, Moderation Management for Moderation programs that work, Amy Lee Coy’s way FROM DEATH DO I PART, Hank Hayes’s way YOU’VE BEEN LIED TO…, Rational Recovery, WFS, or just reading a good book and blogging with other ex steppers.

Each and everyone of you have helped me deprogram and find my way somewhere between the remnants of the AA cult think and a real normal world where most people live. πŸ™‚


I apologize to my sons whenever needed for the bullshit spewed to them …lies I said to them unknowingly about the alcohol and alcoholism rhetoric engrained in me. What a joke it is in today’s entertainment culture.

But now, I know. I know the truth and thank God …so do my wonderful sons.

I pray every parent finds my blog before they do what I did to my first born. It’s criminal the lies AA sober parents say to their kids.

I will spend my life changing all of this and some how make it sane to get help.

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16 thoughts on “EVERY DAY is Precious. Love the One you’re with.

  1. Now that I am truly free of AA I feel little need to talk about it. When I was hurting I needed to blog on it daily. It feels good to be free.

  2. anon- good for you. I am not there yet. i have lots to say and much to change.

    Not one more innocent teen should be sent to a pedophile invested AA/NA meeting. No DUI should be sent to a cult religion for drinking and driving.

    IHow long did it take to deprogram?

  3. Massive,
    Thanks a lot for all you do for this cause, I really appreciate it. Your 2 blogs and radio show have been extremely helpful to me in my deprogramming process. Looking forward to your documentary. Keep up the good work!

  4. This post reminded me of this awesome group called the National Center for Safety Initiatives. Their website is awesome. It really shows the stark contrast of organizations that seek out help to prevent sex abuse and other abuses in their organizations vs. Alcoholics Anonymous that actually vote to do NOTHING! They need the help of a group like this! By the way it is woman owned!!! Go figure:)
    Here is a link to a link! Please check it out.

    http://nadaytona.org/national-center-for-safety-initiatives-2/

  5. It took me 2 1/2 years to deprogram from 15 years of continuous abstinence after 36 years of exposure. In my second year of deprogramming I used harm reduction on tobacco and smoked once a month without becoming a compulsive smoker. At that point I figured it was safe to try alcohol. I do not do this blindly, I have a plan. Here is my current plan; Smoke once to twice a month, drink two to four times a month without becoming drunk. Abstinence days between events are a must. Consequences for straying from my plan are additional abstinence days with the use of HAMS chat. So far I have not felt any compulsion regarding alcohol. In the beginning I did crave tobacco more frequently but after one year of practice the in between smoke cravings are gone. I typically drink one ounce of Armagnac over a period of an hour or so and very much savor the flavor while respecting the potential of impaired drinking.
    The relief of drinking successfully after AA has been amazing because the fear of failure is so deeply seeded by the program. I have also experienced a clarity of thinking related to the shedding of damaging residual AA values.
    It is better to see things as they are than to believe in magic or be prejudiced by spattering of pain caused by lingering beliefs and damage.
    It is positive to help others but if I don’t completely help myself first, I am offering defective assistance.

    • I typically use HAMS chat for my abstinence days (days between drinks). Last night I went to an AA meeting instead. Not only was it a waste of gas and time, I left there feeling worse than before, it reminded me of the reasons to leave AA. Membership in AA is bondage, I would rather be free and happy. So far I am doing well with the drinking and HAMS. No harm, no compulsion, no powerlessness; I am however practicing sober consumption because I realize becoming repeatedly intoxicated will impair my decision making ability. Normal drinkers don’t drink every day, they stop when they start to feel it, and leave half full glasses on the table; that is my new drinking constitution. My old drinking constitution was to drink as often as possible, get as intoxicated as possible, and drink the half full glasses the healthy drinkers left on the table; that is how people get caught in a deadly mind damaging drinking cycle and end up in AA believing anything they are told.

      • The date of my first tobacco in 15+ years is 9/25/11.
        I have smoked once a month to date since then.
        The date of my first drink after 15+ years in AA is 9/16/12.
        I have drank twice since then with no ill effects.

  6. anon-

    wow- I may join you on the HAMS chat. I really like Ken Anderson….he’s a funny guy. I think it’s important for you and others to document and share this truth about moderation. Many people leave but they don’t come back to share their success with this as often as it really happens.

    SO thanks.

    anon, are you in the USA?

  7. Massive,
    I will document my drinking here on your blog, If you want I can do it on this thread or you can create a tab,
    just let me know.
    I am in the USA near Los Angeles.

    • anon-

      thanks. I could create it’s own thread/tab called moderation vs abstinence, but I need help creating the tab.

      I thinks it’s an important part of the lies, the propaganda sold and believed by many unsuspecting long time AA/NA members.

      Bill Wilson or AAWS never did any research and so when they read that crazy BB and it tells them one drink sets up a compulsion, it reminds me a bit like the lies Camel cigarettes told folks and the lies OBGYN DR’s told women about hysteria in the 1930’s as well.

      So keep posting as you feel and I will see if I can create a new tab. πŸ™‚

  8. sue and yuk- sorry I just saw these comments. they helped visually with what I was dealing with on that day! πŸ™‚

    Thanks so much.

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