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    this is from SOS sobriety:



    here is an article from Rational Recovery:



    Here is another paper on AA cultism:



    Just feel sad about it all sometimes. Left AA about two weeks ago and virtually NONE of the folks I met in the last 18 months and considered friends on some level will speak to me at all. My Sponsor replied when I told her I had a glass of wine with my husband and no longer “qualified” for the fellowship that she was “scared for me” and virtually assumed, “your brain and body can’t take the abuse-may God hold you in the palm of his hand.” So I die now? It is the Spiritual arrogance of a cult for sure. Glad to be done with it.



    Bandit- This is very typical and often then case when one leaves AA. Its very cult like. Please keep blogging and join us when we do the radio show. Hams has a nightly chat run by Kenneth anderson. Moderation Management meetings are good. I went a lot the 2 year I was gone.



    How do I link up with that chat? Also, you say you attended moderation management “2 year I was gone”, what does that mean?



    When I tell people that ‘AA Taught me how to drink’, they don’t get it. I went to AA for 2 and 1/2 years and did more drinking in the program than I ever did out.
    Then they lecture you and say you are just ‘not working the steps’. And I’m just like if you want me to bend over and bow so you can stick a wooden spoon up my ass, no I’m not going to do it.
    Sure I get that ADDICTION can get worse before it gets better, but that is due to the dopa-mine effects of the chemicals on your neurotransmitters, not because you don’t ‘belief’ in something.
    AA is for followers. If you have ever worked in any environment or been an independent person, we struggle with AA and its institutionalization.

    I laugh every time I hear people read the preamble where it says ‘AA is not associated with any sect, denomination or institution.’ Seriously? It is all three?
    Any group, party, or faction united by a specific doctrine or under a doctrinal leader.
    A class or kind of persons or things distinguished by a specific name. (Alcoholics)
    An organization, establishment, foundation, society, or the like, devoted to the promotion of a particular cause or program, especially one of a public, educational, or charitable character.

    Also the use of two-faced popular words of wisdom is hilarious.
    There are lots of them:
    Do not be negative (“not” is negative)
    You shouldn’t be judgmental (“shouldn’t” is a judgment)

    Glad I found a group of ‘free thinkers’ to share my experience with because I definitely have not been able to find open mindedness in the dogmatic AA environment.



    hi 747sp- This is a very good point that you are making in regards to the preamble. I have a conversation with an old timer this week and she kept saying ” well our traditions don’t allow that. I kept saying are you kidding? and lots ,more of how they are just lies.

    Welcome !



    While I loathe AA not only for having been highly instrumental in making me so negative and self-loathing by becoming immersed in it as a teen, I’m not finding this here site to have much to offer as far as where to go to get help for deprogramming. Have had no replies to the topic I started. It’s true that there are just a lot of people complaining and playing victim on here. Rational Recovery is also a joke. Just informational meetings. AT least AA has the social aspect. Only problem is I don’t want to hang out with the AAs. Nothing works.

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