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‘I was fresh meat’: how AA meetings push some women into harmful dating

October 20, 2019 Posted by MONICA RICHARDSON Uncategorized 28 Comments

By Darlena Cunha

Tue 22 Sep 2015 10.53 EDT

At 23 years old, Asia Blackwood was the proud stay-at-home mother of three young children in a quaint Connecticut neighborhood. Day in and day out, she prepared snacks and watched with pride as her toddlers learned to share with each other while her husband worked. Life was picture perfect.

But just under the surface, Blackwood’s happy home was crumbling. She was often exhausted, and felt sad for no reason. This listlessness and unhappiness made her feel guilty, since she had nothing to complain about.

“I was given Percocet to deal with the pain after childbirth,” Blackwood recalls. “I realized immediately how good it made me feel. It lessened my depression and gave me more energy.”

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Blackwood’s prescription ran out before she was ready so she started buying the pills online, using them in increasing amounts over the next year. During that time, she saw how unhappy her marriage was and divorced her husband.

She met John (not his real name), a recovering heroin addict, just weeks after her divorce and began dating him. Cut off from her husband’s credit cards, her stash of pills dwindled. John introduced her to a much cheaper alternative: heroin.

She soon lost custody of her children and became homeless for a while, still shocked that her life was now about finding her next fix instead of fixing her kids dinner.

After a very dark year, she decided to make a change, dropped John, and started going to Alcoholics Anonymous.

“What I did not expect was to be fresh meat when I walked into AA meetings,” she told me. “Men wanted my number and wanted to date me. I was newly sober, clueless and craving love.”

Blackwood said she began dating a man with nine months sobriety within her first weeks at AA, and later found out he was sleeping with dozens of other women in the same support group, many of whom she had considered friends.

That discovery was devastating.

“It never caused a relapse, but it did make me question the joy of sober life, and also consider suicide,” she said. “The world seems like a really mean place when you are surrounded by unhealthy people.”

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Blackwood’s story of love in the time of drug abuse is not unique. Women trying to recover are falling into the trap of dating in which the goal is not love or mutual support, but a power play in which they are the losers.

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Joella Striebel, a behavioral health specialist at Gundersen Health System in Wisconsin, says that women have a different pathway to addiction than men. To recover, they must believe they have control over their own lives and can make decisions for themselves, rather than admitting powerlessness – which is one of the main tenets of AA.

“Recovery from addiction is most successful when it is addressing not just the problematic substance-using behaviors, but the underlying issues and past trauma,” she said. “Many women who have been victimized engage unconsciously in repetition compulsions, seeking out archetypes and familiar situations, and through that they can be victimized.”

No one knows that better than Alex Hankel.

At 15 years old, Hankel (not her real last name) was already addicted to drugs. By 18, she was running Narcotics Anonymous meetings in her community in New Orleans. “Like I knew any damn thing,” she recalls. “The groups are so unstructured, basically anything goes.”

Hankel ended up pregnant by a man 15 years her senior while in rehab.

She said she tried to observe the “one year” guideline in place – that users have one year of sobriety before they start dating – but that as one of the only young women in her groups, she was a main target for sexual advances.

“I was too young to be navigating my sobriety around so many disturbed people,” Hankel said. “I needed a mental health doctor.”

Hankel said it was an expensive four-week rehabilitation center that finally helped her; a luxury most people suffering addictions cannot afford. She said many of the cheaper options focus on AA as their major recovery tool, and don’t address the underlying problems that may be causing destructive behaviors.

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At her facility, she was set up with a personal therapist who paid attention to the specific issues beneath her addiction. If people in rehab programs only focus on their dependencies, they are only scraping the surface of the problem, painting over a broken-down foundation without fixing the splintering wood beneath, Hankel explained. Without delving down to the root of the problem, it becomes more likely to grow again.

According to New York psychotherapist Scott W Stern, when the general population thinks about recovery programs, there’s not a lot of distinction between treatment and support.

Treatment, such as rehabilitation and therapy, is run by professionals who start with their clients from where they are and work with them through a variety of medical and psychological means to build their autonomy, he said. In contrast, support groups like AA or NA provide merely a peer-to-peer network of individuals supposedly working toward the same goal.

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Such groups are not equipped to address many of the complex issues that come along with addiction, since they’re run by people who are not trained as professionals. “These groups are places anyone can walk into, where anything could happen,” he said.

In essence, an environment that is touted as a safe space can be anything but. From easier access to substances to sexual harassment, abuse or even outright murder, these programs can inflict further damage.

On the other hand, “evidence-based groups are run by trained facilitators who, in theory, should be able to recognize predatory behavior and intervene”, Striebel said. “Many are gender-based, as well, which further mitigates the risk.”

While there are certain AA meetings that are women-only, the availability of these meetings is scarce at best. Hankel said she was frequently the only woman in a group of 15 or more men, because there was simply no other option in her area.

Leona Colón, who has been in and out of AA programs for decades, said south-east Georgia has just started providing one women-only AA meeting a week, compared with three men-only meetings. Before a couple years ago, she said, there were no women-only meeting at all.

Of course, AA and NA have helped many; it is one of the most popular recovery groups in the US. AA boasts over 1.3 million members as of 2013, but according to Stern only 5-8% actually recover longterm without relapse. This number originates from a retired psychiatry professor from Harvard Medical School, Lance Dodes, who compared AA’s retention rates with studies on sobriety and rates of active involvement in the group meetings.

Meanwhile, members are expected to move through the organization’s 12 steps and accept the doctrine put forth by AA. Some of the women I talked to called the groups cult-like, saying that members cling to the written word in the Big Book and exclude anyone who might question it, leaving them alone when they stumble across what is commonly known as “the 13th step” – that is, when someone makes sexual advances on someone new to recovery.

Being hit on at AA was a daily thing for me. In hindsight, I realize I was never really able to focus on my sobriety

Alexia Colon

Colón has been around 12-step programs since she was a child, and has experienced the 13th step dozen of times. At 14 she saw her mother go through “90 in 90”, which is when a person in recovery attends at least one meeting every day for three months.

“I didn’t lose my mother to alcohol, I lost her to AA,” Colón said. “Being a teenager with a cute mom in AA was not fun at all. No kid wants to see their parent dating, anyway, but the guys from AA bring it to a whole other level.”

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Colón’s mother soon married a man she met through the group meetings, who had 15 years of sobriety to her mother’s one year, and the new couple forced Colón to go to meetings, too, even though she didn’t yet have a substance problem.

“They didn’t want me to be alone in the house all the time,” she said. “So I went to meetings and to sober dances. I was offered drugs there every single time.”

Eventually Colón did end up with a substance problem, and she has been to AA as an adult on and off throughout her life, taking what she needs from the program and leaving the rest. But the rest won’t leave her.

“I showed up to a meeting once in flip-flops and a black T-shirt,” she said. “Some guy yelled out, ‘You know what she’s looking for!’ I got in his face about it and shamed him. Then I was told I shouldn’t have said anything to him about it because he was new. But what about me? I should put up with that?”

Colón has been married for more than 25 years and knows how to handle herself around the group members, but she worries about her daughter, Alexia, who’s in her early 20s and trying to stay sober.

Alexia Colón suffers from depression, which she said she mitigated by self-medicating. When she turned 22, she decided to get help, and started going to AA and NA. Her first week there, she met a man who had four years sobriety and began dating him, only to find him isolating her from her friends and family, policing the way she dressed, and eventually hitting her.

“He was so jealous and kept me on a short leash,” she said, “always pretending it was about my sobriety and was what was best for me.”

Alexia broke it off and left AA, only to fall back into deep depression and substance dependency. When she tried again, months later, to recover, she found AA to be a dangerous place even without an abusive relationship tinging it.

“Being hit on at AA was a daily thing for me,” she said. “I relished in it, honestly. I loved that all eyes were on me all the time. In hindsight, I realize I was never really able to focus on my sobriety.”

She states that the type of attention paid to young women in the programs is detrimental in all ways. “Every single one of us is vulnerable going into those rooms. For the first time in your life, you think you’re learning to cope with your feelings. You’re not hiding behind substances anymore. And you’re speaking in front of people who hug you and tell you they love you. But they don’t. They’re in it for themselves.”

Leona Colón blames the current state of the legal system – in particular drug courts. She said the drug courts in south-east Georgia, where she and Alexia reside, mandate offenders to go to AA meetings. When she complained about this procedure, she was told they could go to any meeting and to find a different group.

“But there are no other meetings here that aren’t at least a half hour away,” Colón said. “Word got around about my complaint, and people started questioning Alexia about it, making the situation even worse for her.”

Stern said the problem is compounded when sex offenders go through the drug courts and are ordered to go to 12-step meetings, which he said is a fairly common occurrence.

“For people with criminal records, it’s not uncommon that they will argue they were under the influence of substances,” he said. “Ninety percent of treatment facilities in the US are 12-step-facilitated, too, which means no matter your crime, you’re most likely going to end up at AA or NA.”

Stern suggests the judicial system should be revamped. However, the National Association of Drug Court Professionals (NADCP) said the way they mandate recovery has already undergone vast changes in recent years.

While it’s still not perfect, Terrence Walton, the NADCP’s chief of standards, said the courts mandate professional treatment before recommending a peer support group to facilitate long-term recovery. He also said that drug courts no longer specify AA/NA as the support group that must be attended, as was the case a decade ago.

“We don’t recommend AA to unwilling participants anymore because if you force someone to go to AA or NA with people who are not being forced to go there, it can be a bad mix. You need to want to participate for those programs to work,” Walton said.

Rhonda Pence, who works in the NADCP’s public relations department, said it’s important to remember that their clientele are people too. “The goal is to help them put their lives back together and get them off drugs for good,” Pence said. “They deserve that chance to become a productive member of society again.”

But if drug courts mandate some form of peer-support group attendance for the betterment of their clients, and 90% of the peer-support groups out there are AA/NA 12-step programs, how can we avoid what Walton called a “bad mix” of people?

Walton, Stern and Striebel all highly recommend a new peer-support option called Smart Recovery. It is similar to AA and NA, but does not involve citing powerlessness as part of recovery, and does not insist on invoking a higher being to belong to the club.

More importantly, Smart Recovery has a 24-hour online option. This greatly helps women who don’t want to attend in-person meetings for fear of being the object of too much attention, as well as those who can’t drive, or live far away from meeting spaces.

The program encourages members to build their own motivation, find ways to cope with urges, manage behaviors and feelings, and start living a balanced life.

“Too many people equate the powerlessness in the AA program with helplessness,” Stern said. “Through that, they accidentally transfer their addiction to substances to an addiction to the support group or members within it. The only way to combat this that I have found is through empowerment.”

As for the four women who found their recovery marred and full of obstacles, they’re all faring well. Blackwood is about to go to court to win visitation privileges with her children again. She’s been sober for a year and a half. Hankel is raising a six-year-old girl by herself, while staying clear of drugs and alcohol. Leona Colón hasn’t personally needed the aid of a group in almost five years, and Alexia is leaning on her for support as she forages ahead in her own recovery.

It wasn’t through AA that Blackwood, Hankel and the Colóns were able to start their healthy paths to recovery. It was through truly learning to love themselves.

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About MONICA RICHARDSON

Monica Richardson was born and raised in New York City in the most northern part of Manhattan, "Inwood" an Irish Catholic neighborhood known for its gorgeous parks, tree lined streets, local bars, Jewish delicatessens, and basketball courts. Monica went to Catholic schools, studied piano and sang, played basketball and was on the swimming team. As a teenager she transplanted to Hawaii where her Dad moved after her parents divorced. Later she moved to Los Angeles to pursue a career in acting and singing studying at Playhouse West, The Groundings, Santa Monica College and UCLA Extension Program. She worked on Movies and TV shows - sang in Japan, worked at 20th Century Fox, and LACER After Schools Program. Richardson made her first Documentary film, The 13th Step that won numerous awards and can be seen on AMAZON, Tubi and Vimeo.

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  • anono mouse
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    October 25, 2019 at 1:57 PM

    No doubt there are problems with guys making advances to the new girl.

    I have also seen too many premeditated relapses blamed on lonely prospective partners who were led on to be scapegoats for less than honest motives.

    The Myth of Male Power by Warren Farrel cites hundreds of statistics that reveal there is equal abuse by both genders in all domestic abuse – men are stronger so abuse by men is more pronounced – yet women abuse men in other ways that are devastating.

    The way my sex abuse therapist better explained this is by saying – “all abuse is sexual abuse – because our sexuality is inseparable from our core self identity”. SO when there is equal domestic abuse there is equal sexual abuse. better yet read The Myth of Male Power and watch The Red Pill by Cassie Jaye.

  • personal thanks
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    October 25, 2019 at 2:40 PM

    There is no apparent awareness or discussion to address the extremely unbalanced gender ratio in most recovery support meetings – there will naturally be serious problems when any group has 3 males to every 1 female – add in unstable people and you can stick a fork in it.

    I have seen Men become demasculated and submissive because they sense on some level that women partners are more scarce and hold more demand in the social system and thus women have 3 xs more gender value and thus power in such extremely imbalanced mate systems.

    These recovery group are literally spring loaded with heightened susceptibility to impulsive behavior. I have noted women abusing men from that side of the power dynamic. women don’t have physical power to abuse but they have a host of other methods that are rarely acknowledged and then people wonder how things get so unhealthy. Socialoogic abuse can be extremely devestating.

    I have seen people look like they were in a physical fight that lasted months or years from social abuse. they often die early or commit suicide which men acccomplish 80% in our warped social systems.

    Single men always compete to get the new girl quick before other single males. This behavior is common in all other social groups. I hear women complain the same way at bars or church dances. I often ponder that such complaints are a dubious bragging from encrypted pride. and It almost seems women amp up these complaints to other females to make them jealous.

    I find total silence acknowledging any unhealthy female sexually based social abuse in most systems. Males know better – thy know if they complain – they won’t get selected by females who all get this free pass to abusing social sexual power.

    This all gets more insanely abused when the male vs female ratio is extremely unbalanced. I suspect a most the problem in recovery groups is energized from a half conscious pent up sense of unfairness which leads to impulsive release of male social sexual energy reacting to the unfair gender power system they feel trapped inside.

    This is never discussed in AA – sociology and psychology are outside issues. They await for god to express his-her-self in the warped power system. by the warp system itself. thus

    the only option is strong warnings to stay away.

  • Donald Wilkerson
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    November 6, 2019 at 3:34 PM

    Dear, Monica
    It is clear that you have some sort of Agenda, I am not sure exactly what it is but AA helps many people. U are not in AA anymore and, therefore you have no opinion. AA is an Anonymous program, and you are exposing AA to the internet and I am going to have to ask you to stop.
    President,
    L.A. Central Office.

    • MONICA RICHARDSON
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      November 7, 2019 at 6:42 PM

      Mr Wilkerson,
      President Of LA Central Office

      1. Are you reading the safety card in all your meetings in the Los Angeles Area.

      Seriously – I was in AA for 36 years – Yea I have an opinion- Can you imagine you saying to Leah Remini that she no longer has an opinion about Scientology because she left it after 36 years- you have no idea what your saying.

      I live in America – where I can have an opinion . AA is hurting thousands every day who are forced there against their will. Teens who are raped and brainwashed to think they are BROKEN forever.

      You think AA is above the church? Do you – really —- now –

      AA is NOT above the church and the church was exposed – you are a business – you are a non profit and there are laws on the books now about Sexual harassment training policy in All business’s since the #metoo Movement exploded. Are you doing that training and making sure that is implemented in all meetings – ?

      AA needs to exposed and changed at a National Level so the world knows what it really is and what it isn’t and WHO GOES there and who is court ordered there. Violent and sex offenders are still being court ordered there.

      Have you told Judges that its a violation to force any person to AA. Have you explained to the judges that an AA sponsor is a nobody – untrained knucklehead- or maybe a dangerous person. That AA is not a professional setting. There are no trained leaders there.

      Lastly, are you aware of meetings in Hollywood where one man has been the secretary for years , M-f -morning and leads, and is the speaker, never rotating and acts like he is a minister and is a predatory financially – Women have contacted me . Meeting needs to be investigated by you guys and shut down-or changed .

      Massive

    • Susan Atkins
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      November 7, 2019 at 7:42 PM

      Dear Donald (great name, btw):

      Seriously? She doesn’t have an opinion??? Of course she does! And she’s free to express it. No, you’re the one who doesn’t have an opinion, remember Tradition 10?

      You said, “I’m going to have to ask you to stop.” No you don’t, that’s not your job – just who do you think you are? We’re never going to stop warning others about the harm AA does. You’re a bunch of lying, cheating assholes who sit around patting yourselves on the back and blowing smoke up each other’s egos while you fill yourselves up with bullshit and screw each other’s spouses.

      Nope, Monica does NOT have to stop. She does honest, brave work and she will never stop. None of us will. You stop, Donald.

      • MONICA RICHARDSON
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        November 8, 2019 at 6:35 AM

        Susan- I could not have expressed it better. Thanks for your post.

    • Trip Boyd
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      November 7, 2019 at 8:06 PM

      Dear Mr President of AA LA central office,

      Are you NOT aware of the harm that AA causes? Do you know how many members have been harmed because they were told they needed to work the steps in order to have a “spiritual awakening,” when in REALITY members get sober because they have spontaneous remissions from alcohol? Do you know how many members have been shamed and blamed by being told “they didn’t do the work?” When they really DID do the work!!! Do you know what gaslighting is. That is EXACTLY what you’re doing here.
      To be fair, I found the steps to be very helpful. They help me with everyday life. However, working the steps did NOT get me sober. I’d been sober 10 months before I started working them. AA harms many with it’s outdated indoctrinated dogma. Did it ever occur to you WHY so many people hate AA?
      Also, are you completely ignorant of how many AA members are on facebook promoting AA? And you’re telling Monica to stop??? That is hilarious….and incredibly hypocritical.
      And lastly…… you’re the president of the LA central office and you spell “you” with a “U???” What? Are you like 16 or something. Very unprofessional. Just like AA.

      • MONICA RICHARDSON
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        November 8, 2019 at 6:33 AM

        Thanks Trip for you comments- although I didnt ever really like the steps I worked them over and over for years. I liked meditation- I loved helping others – but I too think he is very hypocritical –

    • Bret Barnes
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      November 7, 2019 at 8:29 PM

      You’re an employee, so your not a member either… Or are you? Cause you’re not exactly anonymous yourself. And thanks for demonstrating the narcissism and psychological abuse that we’re trying to expose. Don’t bother deleting your comment there are tons of screenshots by now.

      And since you’re in the area, why not pop over and ask you friends at Scientology how using these tactics worked out for them? Eleven plus years ago you couldn’t write a slightly scathing article about them without getting sued into oblivion. But then an *actually* Anonymous, decentralized, and grassroots organization said “Not on our internets.” Didn’t take but a year for some bored teenagers and college kids to grind them down into the punching bag The Church of $icentology is today.

      I think you should Expect that your turn is coming.

      • MONICA RICHARDSON
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        November 8, 2019 at 6:31 AM

        Hi Bret – Thanks for saying what I was feeling.

    • John Kowalski
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      November 7, 2019 at 9:26 PM

      Wow, talk about entitlement!

      AA hurts far more people than it helps.

      YOU, Mr. Wilkerson, of all people have no business telling anyone on what they may or may not opine.

      You are obviously living proof of the potential for harm done by 12 Step religious indoctrination.

      • MONICA RICHARDSON
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        November 8, 2019 at 6:29 AM

        john Wow,

        talk about entitlement!

        AA hurts far more people than it helps.

        Its interesting how he thinks the regular public has to listen to his malarkey-

    • Kal Breadmore
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      November 7, 2019 at 9:34 PM

      Donald Wilkerson,

      Do you speak for AA on this matter? Is it the general view of AA that no-one outside it is allowed an opinion on it? Because trying to stifle criticism, both internally and externally, is the mark of a cult. Are you are cult leader then?

    • Liz Lanari
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      November 8, 2019 at 3:43 AM

      When is aa going to do something? The group already decides personal decisions like when a person should date so ho is this a subject that happens and then not dealt with? Hypocrisy!

    • Leonard Kent
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      November 8, 2019 at 3:56 AM

      Donald,
      It is clear AA is not based in science. It is faith based and therefore it’s successes cannot be measured and are dubious at best. AA does far more harm than good. “Helping” a figure estimated at somewhere between 5% to 3% of the population of persons with substance use disorder. It is also clear that AA needs to be exposed to the internet so the before mentioned population might be aware of the dangers from being exposed to AA. I know I’d like the 20 odd years of my life back I lost within its terrible walls.

      • MONICA RICHARDSON
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        November 8, 2019 at 6:14 AM

        Leonard Kent- I agree- I would like the years of service I gave to AA as a youth – I cant – so I will help those who want to leave AA.

    • Amanda
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      November 8, 2019 at 6:50 AM

      Your cult is not sacred, and anyone who has ever attended those awful meetings is more than entitled to an opinion. In fact, I feel as if there is a DUTY to warn vulnerable people looking for help coping with an addiction, of the dangers presented by those meetings and the toxic and sociopathic predators of all kinds that prey on newcomers.

      More and more, the media and public is becoming aware of the body brokers and the fraud rampant in the treatment industry. Calling yourselves “anonymous” doesn’t give AA the right to censor anyone from discussing the predatory nature of your so called “spiritual” program. Instead of breaking your precious anonymity to make veiled threats on a blog nobody forced you to read, maybe you should concentrate on fixing the disaster that is AA

    • Kate
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      November 8, 2019 at 7:15 AM

      Donald, thank you for so eloquently evidencing the problem with AA!!! someone has a different opinion and she is told simply to stop it!! There in lies the problem, your arrogance and close mindedness is abundantly clear.

  • Nathan
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    November 7, 2019 at 7:10 PM

    I spent five years in AA. I’ve worked the steps slowly, I’ve worked them quickly. I’ve done the primary purpose thing and the meeting makers make it thing. None of it worked. In response I was repeatedly gaslighted by members for failing the program. It is very clear to me after that time that AA is a cult, and that members are trained to protect it all costs with circular rhetorical arguments. Forget the people AA has helped, how about the people that never had a chance because the dominant treatment modality in the US is a creepy book written by a conman in the 30’s, pushed by a cult that artificially inflates it’s success rate?

    • MONICA RICHARDSON
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      November 8, 2019 at 6:39 AM

      Nathan-

      So true – so many who sought real treatment and got 1930’s Billshit religious fakery- how many dead kids these past few years with heroin addiction – Medicine and new science is out there – its a disgrace that AA based rehab is being paid with our health care insurance-

  • Justin Seda
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    November 7, 2019 at 7:18 PM

    Monica Richardson, thank you for your courage and tenacity. It is very telling that AA’s only available response amounts to “you’re a big meanie”! Oh yeah, and because you’re not in the program anymore, you don’t get to have an opinion. Funny thing though, while I was in the program is when I felt like I wasn’t allowed to have an opinion. At least not one that didn’t amount to parroting a bunch of tired cliches and lies. I sincerely believe that we are living in a time that will be viewed in hindsight as the beginning of the age of reason for those with substance use disorders. Keep on doing what you’re doing, I have two daughters and while neither has ever shown any tendency towards substance abuse, I wouldn’t let either one within a hundred yards of “13 step program”! Rock on girl!

    • MONICA RICHARDSON
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      November 8, 2019 at 6:38 AM

      Justin , Thank you so much as well. I appreciate your kind words and I bet your daughters are glad you left AA.

  • Walter Klausmeyer
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    November 7, 2019 at 7:24 PM

    Dear Mr Wilkerson,
    With all due respect, you would need to ask alot of people to “stop”. Too many of us have been harmed or have seen loved ones harmed via AA to remain silent.

    While I realize the behavior of members is often against AA principles, and it’s considered an “outside issue” and “all groups are autonomous” – The public deserves to be aware of what they or their loved ones may encounter in the rooms of AA.

    Alcoholics Anonymous somehow became the default “treatment” for SUD in the US and is the “go-to” for most doctors, judges, families etc. People fail to understand that there is zero oversight by professionals and that sponsors have zero credentials. AA is NOT “treatment” and the public needs to be aware of this.

    Members continue to go into treatment centers either as speakers doing their “12th step work” or as “counselors” and lying to vulnerable people – telling them how AA is the only available option that works. Members often tell vulnerable scared people to stop taking physician prescribed medications. Predatory 13th step behavior continues to run rampant.

    I am sorry if criticism of your organization bothers you. But for the public to understand what they or their loved ones may face in the rooms, people need to speak up and be vocal. Because God knows the Central Office wouldn’t dare do anything about these “outside issues”.

    Walter F Klausmeyer III

    • MONICA RICHARDSON
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      November 8, 2019 at 6:36 AM

      Walter – I often think of that young 20 something who died that you knew at the hands of the workers at The Marty Mann house – who made her scrub the stairs because she Missed an AA meeting. What fuckers.

  • Jason
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    November 7, 2019 at 8:06 PM

    Monica, PLEASE continue to do what you’re doing!!! Like myself, countless people have been hurt by AA and it’s cult like 12steps. Fight the good fight

    Jason

    • MONICA RICHARDSON
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      November 8, 2019 at 6:34 AM

      Hi Jason –

      yes I will continue the fights !

  • wow wee
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    November 8, 2019 at 10:21 AM

    This Donald Wilkerson has to be a joker. I often wonder if the Janus persona on Orange-papers forum was an anti-aa antagonist pretending to be serious when post her crazy hypocrite AA excuses. Janus was a literal two faced greek goddess. I can’t believe any one can be as dumb as Donald who is an actual AA president or officer. But the attitude is all too familiar and more common than you’d think with so many AADumbAsses. My sponsor use to say he was angry at Professional Therapists because he said you had to pay them – yet he made a living getting finder fees for AA rehab. That was the only thing i ever heard him say he was angry about. His favorite slogan was – “f_ck your feelings – work the steps”. He would complain about people complaining. He’d get angry at people who said anger was healthy. He’d blame victims for blaming abusers. Some AA members are that dumb and hypocritical. So this Donald Wilkerson could be real its not so far fetched. I’d love to get some of them on tape as an comedy article here. hashtag #AADumbAssJokers.

  • John Kowalski
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    November 11, 2019 at 8:32 PM

    Surprise surprise! Not only does Mr. Wilkerson have a HUGE conflict of interest, not only is he involved in the Teen Challenge cult, but he’s also a founder of an *abusive* cult…

    https://www.amazon.com/Your-First-Step-Freedom-Life-Controlling/dp/1610362144/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=9781610362146&linkCode=qs&qid=1573504072&s=books&sr=1-1

    http://thewartburgwatch.com/2015/02/04/is-teen-challenge-an-abusive-rehab-program/

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